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here to dissect the dig plays from decision 2013. we could see two more on bended knee before the month is out. see, it does get better. >> all of that plus in honor of this hour for the only tsa agent ever to be killed in the line of duty. we'll take you to lax for the moving ceremony coming up here on "the cycle." we will get to last night's election results shortly. right now president obama is headed to dallas. he plans to thank obama care volunteers trying to he had indicate americans about their option. a quarter of texas residents are uninsured and texas famously declined to accept funding to accept medicaid. today in washington, the white house point person on ensuring the program works, kathleen
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sebelius was back on the hill. >> users are receiving far fewer error messages and time-outs. and we're now able to process nearly 17,000 reg strants per hour with almost no errors. for millions of americans, delay is not an option. people's lives depend on this. we discussed security as part of the overall operations on a regular basis with the operations team, but no one i would say suggested that the risk outweigh the importance of moving forward. >> let's go right to luke russert in washington. luke, not quite the same fireworks we saw during sebelius's first round of testimony, but what did you make of the oversight there today? >> that's to be expected. the senate is the house of lords as compared to the house of commons. but what we did learn today, number one, is that kathleen
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sebelius resisted bipartisan attempts to perhaps shut down the website until they can get it fixed so it wouldn't be any more confusing for those who want to enroll. you saw in the bite there, there was no point in doing that because it is easier to fix the website while it was up. we also learned that enrollment numbers would be low but she also perhaps most importantly said that we are not where we need to be. very similar to what she said last week accepting the blame trying to move forward. there were fireworks under john cornyn of texas. kathleen sebelius whether there were criminal background checks involved for folks like navigators who helped people try to get enrolled in the website. they said they were not -- cornyn said you're going to have possible fell ones dealing with this very personal information, that could be problematic. that's something of a nugget that will go big in the conservative blogosphere. but i will say overall, ari, she definitely performed better than last week. by taking responsibility sort of
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takes a little bit of hot air out when folks say she shouldn't rea sign, saying we're doing our best, moving right along. they are not going to put down the website but keep it up, even though there's a bipartisan call for it to be up until it's fixed. >> when you think about her situation, you think some some ways she's playing a tough hand pretty well here, you know what i mean? >> she's really -- there's not much she can do. she fell on the sword for the administration. she's base beingally saying, we're doing all we can to fix it. i'm sure in hindsight they wish they could have delayed it but if they delayed it one second, the cat calls from the other side would have been unbelievable. >> charles hadlock is awaiting the president's arrival. what do you know about the push today? >> reporter: well, ari, the president just arrived at and w andrews air force base aboard marine one and he will begin the trip to texas.
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once he's here, he'll meet with paid navigators and volunteered who helped people navigate they are way through the healthcare.gov website, which has gotten off to a very rocky start. there's a reason he's coming to texas. a quarter of the pop lace, 6 million people are without health care -- health insurance here in texas. that's the most of any state in the union. now, texas is also opted out of the health care exchange program and governor rick perry refused to expand medicaid as the president had wanted. texas also -- the critics in texas say the affordable health care act as promised by the president has been a disaster and they point to the fact that millions of americans are now being told they cannot keep their health care plans as the president explained that they could. there's another reason obama is coming to texas, it's to collect cash for the democrats for the democratic senatorial candidates, he'll attend a reception later today. $15,000 a head reception,
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followed by a $32,000 a plate dinner at the homes of several prominent democratic lawyers here in texas. this is the president's 12th trip to texas. his fourth trip to dallas. the last time was for the opening the george w. bush presidential library back in april. >> thanks for coming on. to help us dissect all things obama care, we're joined by megan mccartel. how are you? >> i'm fine, thanks. >> we'll get to elections but a lot of talk about navigators and new york times reporting some states like kentucky, they've been very helpful. luke russert reporting on republicans though trying to use this sort of grass roots outreach as a potential pit fall. how important is it to have something offline to help people in states learn about what they can do under this law? >> well, i think right now it's very important. if the website isn't performing as we expected, it probably
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wouldn't be as important. you would still want that, especially for seniors who aren't always the tech savviest people. the issue is that the republicans are pretty fair on is that not all of the navigators seem to have been trained as much as you might like. the new york times article had a kentucky navigator telling a woman who is reluctant to sign up for medicaid, you could just sign up and use it for catastrophic expenses and pay your doctors out-of-pocket for other things. it's actually illegal tore providers to accept medicaid payments out-of-pocket from people on medicaid. they can only accept the state mandated co-pays. so health care system really, really complicated. and it's difficult to master all of these rules in the time that we have for training, as we go forward, i expect you'll see some of that shake out. if we keep having navigators around, they'll learn more about how the insurance system works
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and what they should and shouldn't say. >> and in somewhat good news, opposition to the law has gone down, very slightly. it's down from 63% in september to 56% now with 42% saying they are likely to enroll. that's compared to 37 back in september. but megan, you've been writing about this, still very much cause for concern are young people signing up. we know this is an important part of this. this is the only way it's going to work, otherwise the price will go up for everyone involved. but you make the point we shouldn't worry quite yet. we should have expected to see the oldest and sickest and poorest patients registering nationally, the most motivated to sign up. when do you think we should start worrying and if we get to the point not enough young people sign up, what is the reality of that? >> right now you wouldn't expect for the kind of young and healthy to sign up because it's still hard to go through the website and that's where you expect them to go. but i do think that if say in
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december 15th we haven't seen significant uptake on the website for the people who want to sign up for january 1st, we should start to get nervous then. you know, it's a little bit hard to tell because if the website isn't working by december 15th, which isn't out of the realm of the possibility, maybe you push that deadline out to january or february. but certainly by january, really need to see young and healthy people getting on the exchanges and getting coverage to keep premiums low for everyone. >> let's talk about last night. there's two schools of thought in the pundit, about what obama care and the va gubernatorial results mean. some are pointing to 53% of virginia voters saying they oppose obama care and 90% of them voting against mcauliffe, suggesting to something that it had a -- shrink that gap.
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others saying no, it's been unchanged over the last year and as abby alluded to, tick upward recently. that's probably not the issues. my question, which school of thought are you leaning toward? >> i think we have to go outside. virginia race and look at the president's polls, it's a little messy and unclear in virginia. if you've been following president obama's polls he started off with a case of second termitis, but when the shutdown happened, his poll stazs started to recover and then took a dramatic turn and diving again. that seems to be in reaction to the problems we're having with the obama care website. and of course the insurance policy cancellation. so i think looking at those polls where they are now back close to the worst levels ever, i do think that suggests that across the nation, people are really worried about the website
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and whether it's going to work and losing confidence in it. that may of course turn around in the website is up and working in a couple of weeks. but i do think that probably did have impact in virginia. >> megan, we focused a lot on enrollment in the private insurance exchanges and the problems there. for the states that did go forward with the medicaid expansion, how is that piece working for them? >> so medicaid is actually been surprisingly strong in a lot of states because it's actually in fact much stronger than people were expecting. we were expecting a pretty even split between medicare -- medicaid patients and people signing up for private insurance on the exchanges. instead what we've seen in states like washington and states like new york and states like oregon, is that the bulk of the enrollments are coming through medicaid. again, who is most likely to kind of rush in at the beginning, people who have not been able to get insurance before and not people who haven't been bothering by it but
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blocked by one reason or another. low income people would be a group we would expect to see earlier than the young healthy financially stable people we hope are going to come in later. but medicaid has mostly been working well. in part because there's a mechanism for signing people up outside of the exchanges. even in oregon where they are exchange isn't really working yet, they've managed to get like 50,000 people on medicaid pretty early. >> they've been building off statutory format that already exists so that makes a big difference. thanks for your time today. >> thank you. >> up next, it's going to begin for mcauliffe and christie and de blasio, we'll chat about the election results and what it means as "the cycle" rolls on. >> yes, the president was somewhat dishonest about the promise of his health care program, but here's the weird part, his opponents have been lying like [ bleep ] about its effects. >> it's estimated obama care
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>> decision 2013 is now behind us, bring on 2016. those are the headlines surrounding new jersey governor christ christie today, pulled off a landslide victory against his opponent. >> the biggest things i've learned about leadership over the past four years, leadership is much less about talking than it is about listening. i know if we can do this in trenton, new jersey, maybe the folks in washington, d.c. should tune in tvs right now and see how it's done. >> terry mcauliffe's victory in the virginia race was much
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tighter, he beat tea party republican ken cuccinelli and abortion as slavery campaign, can't imagine why he struggled with american voters. let's ask howard fineman, i have to tell you as someone who lived in virginia most of my life, who ran for congress in virginia, i find it amazing that abortion is actually a winning issue for democrats in virginia now. if you look at the numbers, 20% of the voters say abortion was the number one issue. of the 20%, terry mcauliffe won them overwhelmingly. >> virginia has changed, especially northern virginia, especially the washington suburbs of virginia. and virginia, i would like to say virginia is the new ohio, it's the ultimate swing state. on abortion it's clear that certainly among working women in
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the washington area, professional women, and women who sort of part of the metropolitan area and other cities like richmond and even roanoke and hampton roads own so forth, you can't be a hard line right to lifer and have much of a chance at winning at virginia anymore. you're right, that's a huge change. >> the election ended up being closer than anyone expected. i wouldn't be surprised if the tea partyers are saying, we actually had the cards stacked against us. we didn't have the establishment behind us and folks coming out stumping for us like the clintons did. we didn't have nearly as much money, we had the government shutdown and we got close enough to potentially win this race. we had maybe one more week, maybe a little bit more money, we could have been successful. i feel they might be reenergied and say, once again we were wronged and we're not going anywhere. maybe that's a good thing for democrats. >> well, i think you're right on
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the attitude of tea party people from ken cuccinelli to people all around the country. terry mcauliffe, hugely outspent ken cuccinelli especially at the end of the race. terry mcauliffe was carpet bombing the media market with tv ads attacking cuccinelli and also cuccinelli had to deal with the specific effects of the government shutdown because one -- amazing, one out of three voerts in virginias according to exit polls said they were directly affected by the government shutdown. those people went almost 2-1 for terry mcauliffe. really in a way it was ted cruz who lost the election for republicans in virginia because he led the government shutdown. >> of course, abby is right, like zombies on walking dead because you can't kill them no matter what you do ee lectorly,
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the war in the gop, you have these establishment folks and tea party folks, they aren't going anywhere. but the interesting thing, this is not a debate over ideology on that side of the aisle. it is about tactics and how far we take disagreements with the dems and president. >> if you look at chris christie's stance on the social issue, he's moderated to some extent. at one point he contributed to planned parenthood years ago and had a big conversion on abortion but makes exceptions for rape, for insist, for the life of the mother. that's liberalism by modern republican standards. what a moderate. that's the moderate position. he sort of gave up the fight in the courts on gay marriage. so the tone -- part of it is substance but also tone and also the difference between the ram pant ideologues running free on the house floor of the congress and governors in blue or purple states who are republicans but
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who nevertheless have to govern. and they get mugged by reality the way chris christie did in new jersey and the way john kasich did in ohio and even rick scott to some extent in florida. they've got to govern and deal with real on the ground problems and that turns the biggest ideologue into a pragmatic person. that was -- was that jersey, could there be anything more jersey than the setting for that announcement in asbury park last night? it was just amazing. >> there's a saying in the hip hop community, real talk. they'll have to have real talk about chris christie and incredible coalition. whatever you think of his politics, this was remarkable, a third of democrats went out for him. a majority of the latinos in the state, and an unusually large share, one out of five african-american voters and speak to that and when democrats
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wake up to what a strong coalition he put together yesterday. >> i think it was very impressive. you're right to show those numbers. i think that's one of the most impressively sort of multicultural ethnic coalitions i've seen any major republican figure put together in a long, long time. and that's what the republican party needs to do. the republican national committee put out a report saying they have bad websites and bad communications. it's not that. it's that chris christie seemed like a guy who wanted to govern in the interest of all the people of new jersey. and quite frankly, he took after the teacher's unions and they are not very popular in the state across the board. and you can load and chris christie did load all of the problems and complaints about public education onto the backs of the teachers and teachers fought back to the extent they could. but it's not a fair fight when chris christie is at the microphone. >> and howard, i think he ran on
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governor pat quinn is promising to sign the bill into law fulfilling a long time pledge of his, it's been a long road with months of tireless lobbying by both sides of the issue. illinois is the 15th state to pass marriage equality. hawaii could pass a similar bill by the end of the week. in new mexico, the state supreme court is expected to rule on its legality before the end of the year. >> at the u.s. supreme court today, justices heard arguments in a case involving the
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separation of church and state that could have a major impact on government from small towns all the way to capitol hill. case involves a suburb near rochester new york and two nonchristians who argue they were coerced into praying before town meetings. many believed the court settled this issue 30 years ago when it ruled a neb legislature could pay the chaplain arguing that prayer is the fabric of our society. many are wondering if the disgraced crack smoking mayor of toronto has a prayer of keeping his job. the city council is urging the deputy mayor to or chess straight a dignified exit. ford has apologized but insists he's not going anywhere. >> i apologize and i'm so sorry. i was elected to do a job. and that exactly what i'm going
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to continue doing. >> that is tough and mayor ford has been losing it even without an election. we want to turn to the winners and losers in our election recently. a couple of thoughts i had watching this last night. number one, the big winner on policy here are i believe the 400,000 people in virginia that can actually get the medicaid expansion, which terry mcauliffe ran on. and all of the state of virginia which may become a state where we actually see obama care carried out in good faith by cooperative governor rather than sabotaged. that doesn't mean it's going to be super popular tomorrow or the next day. we have to wait and see. but i am with the president on the idea that we ought to give this a chance to work on it and see where it goes rather than sabotage p at every turn. >> novel idea. >> right, sabotaging on every turn, not good. >> patriotism. i do want to say something about
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chris christie, tour'e and i were arguing about on the commercial break. my view on christie, i disagree with his policies on education and pensions and public workers, he is scott walker's policy positions and he's scary for those of us who care about those issues. on the politics, this guy has put together an impressionive and unusual coalition for a republican. the new york times writes about how he did over 100 town hall meeting and including many in african-american neighborhoods where on politics alone republicans said, we're losing all of those voters, let's not bother. chris christie, i gave him credit for this piece, no, i don't think these folks have to be written off by the party. let me make my case and yesterday got 20% of the african-american vote, a majority of the latino vote. it's good for republicans to do this outreach and it should scare democrats he's built this kind of coalition.
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>> he's not going to be able to do this in terms of getting 30% -- if it was 30% of the african-american vote nationally. yes, he's a talented guy. can he go in a republican primary and not be changed by the republican primary as we've seen having to tick boxes they want to see those sort of far right folks? no way. it's going to be entirely different zbli the thing i see with chris christie, he went into those african-american communities and they do not agree with him on vast majority of issues that he actually -- his actual idealogical positions are not there with him. but he is able to gloss over those and focus on things that -- things like trust and accountability and leadership. and i think he will be able to use the same skillset to gloss over differences, small as they may be, that he may have with a tea party base. one of the things about the virginia race yesterday is people are asking, what are the lessons that people should learn from this. if we can put up the vote totals for the republican candidates
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for statewide office yesterday. you can see the vote totals have an inverse relationship with the level of crazy of the particular candidate. so it starts down there at the bottom. e.w. jackson, the guy that things yoga is a vessel for satan, he was the most crazy, got the least votes. next up in the medium for this ticket crazy category is ken cuccinelli. the abortion is slavery guy. and then mark obenshain, he is only if you have a miss carriage you have to report it or you're a criminal crazy, and he got the most votes. he was the least crazy in this race. that was the bar that republicans had to exceed and they couldn't do it. >> i think the big story on -- really was chris christie though. for me especially he was really a breath of fresh air for the establishment republican party that are very much hoping to
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regain the party back from the tea party. i think he had a positive message of leadership, of compromise. one that was appealing i think to many around the country, a number of republicans. i agree with tour'e on this. his greatest challenge will be the primaries and he's going to have more specific where he stands on a number of issues he might not be conservative enough for for these primary voters that's going to be a real challenge. i don't even think we got to the toronto mayor rob ford. >> we'll get to rob ford. >> one of the losers i think of this week. >> of course. >> there's an awesome article in new york magazine that everyone should check out. a list of 21 things worth knowing about the mayor. it's entertaining and astonishing this man was ever elected mayor. he's been charged with assaulting his wife, hitting on his opponent, female opponent. arrested for a dui which he lied about. he is a complete loose can none, they had known he was using crack for a year now.
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>> there are many ways you can tell how he's using crack. you can't have your story be i got drunk and used crack. how did you get from being drunk to using crack? i need to know, are you in a bar where they sell crack also? are you hanging out with friends who have crack? yeah, let's have a couple of shots, want to kick this party up a notch? i have some crack, i carry it with me. look, there's many ways we knew, it was quite obvious he was on crack. show that little bit. >> how to tell if your mayor is smoking crack. >> blurred vision. [ bleep ] holy -- >> loss of balance. sudden fits of rage. >> get off property. get off my property. thank you very much. >> denies smoking crack. >> i did not use crack cocaine. >> admits to smoking crack.
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>> yes, i have smoked crack cocaine. >> and how it tell if your mayor is smoking crack. >> that is too good. >> that's from jimmy kimmel. governor christie said sppeople come up and said how do you have so much energy to hug people? i want to know who's asking that. that tiring to hug? twitter goes public. we can talk about how you keep the stuff you don't want the w0r8d to world to know, how you keep it private and how you work -- everyone -- can we get a wide shot. everybody is laughing at me. randy zuckerberg is here, sister of mark zuckerberg and she'll join us to talk about her new book. that's next. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman,
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terminal four of los angeles international airport, the site of the shootout which killed hernandez the first tsa agent killed in the post 9/11 history. right now the u.s. honor flag arrived from dallas where it will be flown in hundreds of police and firefighters to honor sacrifice by mr. hernandez that saved so many other innocent lives. it first flew during recovery efforts at ground zero and since then traveled 6 million miles to events honoring fallen american heroes. we turn to the story that has wall street atwitter today. the social media company is going public. the most hyped since facebook. the share price will be set tonight after the bell but is expected to be around $25 a share. valuing the company at $13.6
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billion. the s&p is near a record high and two other social media sites have each more than doubled in a year. our next guest has been on the front lines of the digital revolution. after a few dust-ups drunk tweeting included, lived to tell the tale. ran zi zuckerberg. >> still standing. >> former facebook marketing executive and the older sister of that other zuckerberg. facebook ceo mark. ranked one of the 50 digital power players by the hollywood reporter chz ironic since she writes. we should think of ourselves as mini celebrities before tweet are or tagging in her new book dot complicated. it's a book everyone should read if they are on social media. this does stem from your personal xpernexperiences. what was the breaking point for you? >> i was on the front lines of
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creating social media and this whole wired world we live in for so long, it wasn't until i had my son that i sort of took a step back and started thinking, gosh, instead of living in the here and now every moment, what are we innovating right now, it's more what do we want the digital world to look like in the future? what kind of a world are we bringing children into where they are expected to be connected 24/7. >> we do feel connected 24/7. for a lot of us it leads to being disconnected to folks at the dinner party or table in front of us, that add, the information we're getting from instagram or twitter or whatever is a deep dive and read an article that is 1,000 words, too long to read. it's changing our brains. >> you get a kind of certificate knownen burst when you get a text message or e-mail. you actually -- it's very hard to avoid the blinking red light or vibrating phone. i write in my book, all of us
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have a pretty complicated relationship with technology for all of the reasons you mentioned. it's important to take stock of our own lives and think how to put more balance in. >> randy, i really relate to what you said about your son serving as an inspiration to you. my daughter served as a real wake-up call for me to get more involved in our nation's politics. one of the things you did this this book, you have an accompanying children's book. tell us why that part was important to you. >> thanks. when i was talking about writing dot complicated. technology spans every age, children younger and younger, you see them in the phones and tablets. i would love to also write a children's book about a little girl obsessed with technology and learns to put it down and go play outside. >> beautiful. >> experience the real world. >> beautiful. >> speaks to parents as well. how much do we let the kids use the device and push them to be outside.
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>> another piece of this is facebook isn't just a cool place to go and meet friends. it's also a place where people are seeking to make real change in the world. you have some tips in the book for how to be more effective at using social media. >> it's fun to be here right after election day. one of the opening stories in the book i tell is my involvement with the 2008 election and how facebook played such an important role in that election and with the obama campaign. so that was -- it was really interesting to start seeing social media be used for more than college students poking one another and start to stand for real change in the world. >> you also give dating advice, which is so important today. i feel like you can't go to dinner to someone without constantly checking your phone. what are the best tips you have for not letting devices get in the way of a relationship? >> first of all, we really redefined what intimacy means. in the digital age, you have --
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most people sleep with their phone right next to their bed. most people are checking their e-mail. that's the last thing they do before they go to bed, not like talk to their spouse or significant other. it's check their own work e-mail. >> or text them right next to them. >> friends, people on a date, out at dinner, all on phones at the same time. i think really maybe being a bit old fashioned, picking up the phone to call someone instead of texting them on a date. >> how do you do that? how do work a telephone? >> gosh, this thing is ringing. what do i do with it? >> reminds me of those aliens from sesame street. >> the book is wonderful thanks so much for being with us. >> up next, facebook twitter, instagram, did you ever post something on social media and regret it. i've never done that. rex rogers said constantly, i will probably end up regretting this. follow us on twitter and make
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urinal and opened the argument for what qualifies as arts, warhol's soup cans? yes, high end graffiti? yes. what about pacman? yes. the seen overcreater of architecture and design led the charge. i talked about interactive design and why she chose the game she did. >> video games are art? >> oh, yes, they are. video games are art and they are absolutely part of the collection at the museum of modern art. we've been looking at this as one of the most important forms of expression today. the whole idea when we founded the museum was it was going to be about the art of our time. that goes without saying that a museum and collection evolve with the evolution of owe site
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and evolution of culture. in the past 30 years, interactive design has been so important for us. it is the relationship between people and machines and screens. >> what would you say to my parents who say that's not art, art is picasso or monet? >> i would tell them, there wouldn't be art in our lives. art is everywhere, including in video games. our job is to educate our public. >> when you first bring this idea into the museum, people decide what will be acquired, was there pushback? >> there always is a pushback, but i have to say the enthusiasm we have encountered was amazing, not only inside the museum but outside. we expected a lot of criticism and we got some, but most of it was constructive and engaging. >> what are the games you focused on? you want to bring in 40 games
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but you have 14 so far. >> we do think really carefully and in depth. it took us a year and a half to get to a wish list of 40 tetris instance, the soviet version, pac-man, the sims, so it's very mixed. you have some great popular successes and some kind of sleepers. >> packmman, why is that necessy to be here? >> because of this sensation, of this depth on the 2-d maze. of course it was a great popular success. but popularity was not our first criteria. truly, what you felt in pacman was a new type of space and that's why we acquired it as a milestone. >> which are your favorite to play? >> oh, i have one favorite, because i love the music so much and that's vib ribbon, it was a
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game based on music so you could use your own cd, and then the game would adapt in speed and rhythm to the music you chose. but the original music is -- it could be sampled by jay-z in a second. it reminds me of "hard knock life." ♪ and it's haunting and the game is beautiful. ♪ it's a hard knock life >> talking about first-person shooters. huge part of the gaming experience. are you taking a position? >> yes, we're taking a position, not necessarily a moral position, bejust don't find it interesting enough as an interaction. >> i can feel why the sims in sim city is important, right? because it's beautiful, and it is immersive and you become part of the space but you are the god of the space. >> sims are really deeply philosophical games. in games, there is something called god mode, when you can do
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whatever you want. but sim city is a very limited kind of god. because you can set the parameters for your city, but then they behave according to their own ways of behaving. you can set some directions, but then you're not completely in control. >> tell me about passage. >> passage is a really interesting game. it is highly pixelated, a little retro. it lasts five minutes. in five minutes you go from being born to dying. you go through life. and you have to make choices, you can choose whether to have a partner or not. if you choose to have a partner, life is easier. fewer obstacles. but you die sooner. and instead if you choose not to have a partner, it's a little harder, but you die afterward. you don't have a second life. beginning and finish, there is also your little tombstone. >> thank you to the moma and tinellea. ari doesn't get it. if you see the exhibit which runs through january, you will.
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democrats not only won a key victory in virginia's governor race yesterday, they also repelled another all-out attack on obama care. remember, after the gop couldn't stop the health care law in congress, the state-level attack began in virginia. attorney general ken cuccinelli was the very first attorney general in the country to challenge the law in had court. he's one of the republicans most
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associated with the obsessive effort to delegitimize covering the uninsured. as the "washington post" reported back in 2010, by leading the legal challenge, cuccinelli transformed himself from an obscure state senator into a national conservative folk hero. in his campaign for governor, he ran as much against obama care as against terry mcauliffe. >> tomorrow in virginia, is a referendum on obama care. >> terry not only supported obama care, but he actually didn't think it went far enough. >> and you find out what it actually costs. oh, it's the unaffordable care act. >> and he predicted yesterday's outcome would turn on obama care. >> it is a major distinction in the race. and tomorrow has turned very much into a referendum on obama care. >> many conservatives agreed with that. >> the obama care controversy, i think, has cut a couple points. >> cuccinelli has actually closed that by a number of points in the last few days,
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largely by trying to make this a referendum on obama care. >> the number one reason he's closing that gap is one word, paul, obama care. >> so how did that go? well, even though the gop won the governor's mansion by 17 points last time, cuccinelli lost yesterday. and 12 points worse among women. mcauliffe also beat him among moderates by almost 20 points while energizing fellow democrats. 92% actually said they approved of the national party heading into election day and that's important, because by contrast, cuccinelli's obama care message did not unite his party. only 72% of virginia republicans said they approved of the national gop. now look, none of that means obama care was very popular among virginia voters. 53% said they aoppose the policy yesterday. but cuccinelli alienated people on many other issues. in fact, he embodies the
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prepositivous hypocrisy a party which protests subsidies for health care while trying to march the government into your doctor's office, your marriage, and yes, your uterus. cuccinelli's loss proves that even for an electorate that is skeptical of obama care, just running against obama care is not enough. and now i think for the first time, virginians might actually experience obama care fully applied in good faith. the current governor declined the medicaid funding from the obama administration, and now the man who won last night wants to use that money to expand health care to 400,000 virginians. that's roughly a fifth of the people who voted yesterday. and a policy helping that many people could end up being pretty popular too. that does it for "the cycle." jonathan capehart is in for martin bashir. >> it's wednesday, november 6th. and who's got the power?
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♪ i've got the power >> the rhetoric of reform is becoming the reality of reform and we're not going back. >> this race was a referendum on obama care. >> you go around and say a lot of biologically stupid things. >> the tea party isn't nearly as much fun as it sounds. >> you sent a message, virginia would continue the mainstream bipartisan position. >> despite being outspent by an unprecedented $50 million -- >> a lot of cuccinelli supporters a little bit bitter. >> this race came down to the wire because of obama care. >> republicans out of virginia. >> thank you, new jersey, for making me the luckiest guy in the world. >> i have never seen a more explicit launching of a presidential campaign. >> maybe the folks in washington, d.c. should tune in -- >> hey, washington, look at me! >> i sought a second term to finish the job. now watch me do it. >> how long can a hot seat stay hot? >> madam